According to Roger Slack, WoO Double File restarts at Volusia...

[tjslideways]

Thoughts....I'll reserve mine about how much I dislike this idea until I can compose it in full...

[Stevensville Mike]

Thoughts....I'll reserve mine about how much I dislike this idea until I can compose it in full...

We're headed down to Volusia in less than a week for the weekly show.  I don't like change, and I don't like this (on the surface).

I want to see it happen for a little while before I pass final judgement.  However, if they are going to do it, they are going to do it.

I'll report back.

[drdoug]

In my mind it not the best idea. Seems like there are going to be alot of extra restarts.Standing on the gas (on dirt) two wide and all bunched up,makes for a narrow race track

[Stevensville Mike]

Let's see.... we had a simple system where the cars line up single file, the green flag is thrown, and no one can pass until you pass the cone on the right side.

Now, double file.  Jumping the flag will start becoming more and more of a prob.  Penalizing drivers for doing so.  The calls will have to be consistent.  Getting the officials involved more is like having more government involvement in your day-to-day life.  More tempers.

Also, more chance of cars getting together.  More chance of delays. 

But, we'll give it a try.  Who knows how it will come out.  We had pitstops at the Nationals, now NASCAR is being copied on the restart.  Is the "Lucky Dog" next?

[Stevensville Mike]

Here is a clipping I swiped off of the SPEED Channel website (www.speedtv.com).  The main jist of the article was what TJ posted to start this thread.  There are more changes coming, though for the WoO:

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"Another change eliminates the “pill draw” to determine the lineup in the Dash, an event held after the heat races, which establishes the top 10 starting positions for the A-Feature. Going forward, drivers will be positioned based on their qualifying times. In addition, the non-qualifiers race has been eliminated from the program.

Teams that ran full-time with the Outlaws in 2009 are being rewarded with guaranteed starting positions in each of the three features scheduled at Volusia. Those provisionals will not count against teams for the balance of the season."

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So, what are they talking about when they say "Going forward, drivers will be positioned based on their qualifying times"?  Going forward from the back?  A full inversion?  They CAN'T be talking about that, can they?

And, if they are eliminating the non-qualifiers race, does that mean all cars that show up will now run and they are no longer limiting the size of the fields or they are limiting the field and everyone else is SOL?

[TommySalami]

Let's just slow down for a minute and read what it says...

So, what are they talking about when they say "Going forward, drivers will be positioned based on their qualifying times"?  Going forward from the back?  A full inversion?  They CAN'T be talking about that, can they?

The way I read it, they are talking about the DASH lineup, not the feature.

And, if they are eliminating the non-qualifiers race, does that mean all cars that show up will now run and they are no longer limiting the size of the fields or they are limiting the field and everyone else is SOL?

I am guessing it's not the B-Main they're referring to...Perhaps the C-Main?

[drdoug]

Next thing they will try to do is put the lapped cars behind leaders on a restart. Ooops settle down Doc, you are being sarcastic......

[TommySalami]

Here is some clarification on the issue...

http://www.worldofoutlaws.com/sprint/news/2010/january/012810_sp_2010racenight.aspx

[Stevensville Mike]

Let's just slow down for a minute and read what it says...

The way I read it, they are talking about the DASH lineup, not the feature.
I am guessing it's not the B-Main they're referring to...Perhaps the C-Main?

I understand it was the Dash, Tommy.  What throws me off is what does "Going forward" mean?

As for the elimination of the non-qualifiers race, WoO used to allow the top 50 qualifiers to go to the heats.  Any other "leftover" cars would run an eight (or ten) lap race beforehand, with the Top 2 going on (to the tail end of the C Main, I think).  Now it looks like they are going back to the old ways.  70 cars?  Well then, we'll just have enough heat races to accomodate 70 cars!  I LIKE that.  I never liked the 50 car cap.

Thanks for posting this link to the WoO site, Tommy.  I'm still awaiting the arrival of my passport card, by the way.  My ticket to Ohsweken!

[jl47]

i dont like the double file restarts I ALSOthink they are copying nascar and dont ever want to see anything like a lucky dog in sprint car racing .

[dirtracer74]

Double file restarts were happening WAY before Nascar started doing them. Dirt tracks have been doing them for several eyars now.

I am mixed on the issue. Ya, you can say all races start double file. However, there is a huge difference between 30 laps to go, and five laps to go. When a race starts, alot of drivers will trying to find some room, then go racing. With five to go, everyone is trying to get a few more spots before the finish.

I do not see an increase in cautions with the double file restarts. Keep in mind, I have been wrenching on a car that has been doing them for three years now. I do not buy into the argument that it causes more cautions. I have not seen it.

Personally, I do not like them. I think it takes longer to get races back under green, cause too many people think they should start in the preferred line. Plus, 1/2 the time, you get stuck in the junk line, and may lose a few spots on the start.

From a fans point, alot of them like it. They want to see cars racing, not a bunch of cars strung out.